Belgium announced that it is considering recognizing the state of Palestine, vowing to impose sanctions against Israeli occupation forces due to its genocidal war on Gaza.

Belgium announced that it is considering recognizing the state of Palestine, vowing to impose sanctions against Israeli occupation forces due to its genocidal war on Gaza.

  • @lemmylommy@lemmy.worldEnglish
    -98•1 year ago

    Great idea. Show every separatist movement in the world that a day of unrestrained terrorism, including murder, rape and baking babies gets rewarded.

    • SilverserenOP
      51•1 year ago

      As compared to a month of unrestrained terrorism with multiple times more babies being murdered?

    • Annoyed_🦀 AEnglish
      21•1 year ago

      That’s how USA came to be. And Ireland. And Haiti. And France. And many other country today that used to be ruled under a colonist.

      Not justify murdering, but lets not pretend that a lot of country today did not go through guerrilla warfare to get independence. If Zionist didn’t oppress them, 7th October incident will not happen.

      • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkinEnglish
        7•1 year ago

        Technically France wasn’t founded by separatism but instead by state collapse via the dissolution of the carolingian empire

        • Annoyed_🦀 AEnglish
          1•1 year ago

          Israel isn’t in control of that area for almost 20 years.

          Ground, yes. Air and maritime, no. Same goes for West Bank, and also the ground and border crossing toward Jordan.

          • @keardap@lemmy.selfhost.questEnglish
            1•1 year ago

            First of all, Gaza also have a border with Egypt. But overviewing sea import is required for Israel to survive, Hamas is using everything in its power to attack Israel. Even water pipes paid for by the EU.

            The same goes for every other resource. Sand donated by Japan, went to Hamas to build tunnels. Cement too was used to build tunnels into Israel, so Israel had to spend billions to stop that.

            Gaza has many resources for economic success. Fertile soil (in some areas), beutiful sea, border with two countries, university, hospitals, etc. Moreover, rich economics from all over the world are willing to build infrastructure for them (water pipes for example).

            Even partners in Israel that want peace.

            • Annoyed_🦀 AEnglish
              1•1 year ago

              Look, i’m not gonna pretend that Hamas isn’t a shitty government and a terrorist group, i even agree that they can use the help to make Gaza better, but you can’t be serious when you trying to argue that Israel doesn’t oppress gaza while also acknowledge that Israel need gaza maritime space for their own benefit, that is oppression for fuck sake lmao.

              Gaza is already poor when Israel leave Gaza, then Israel blockade hamper their trade, israel control maritime space so they can’t have a port, israel control air space so they can’t have airport, and the world did not recognize Palestine as a country, all Gaza had is Rafah crossing, that’s their only way for import/export. It’s an uphill battle make harder by Israel action. Listing the facility donated by other organisations doesn’t make the oppression just disappear.

                • Annoyed_🦀 AEnglish
                  1•1 year ago

                  Are you trying to say just because Hamas is a terrible government, the ill treatment toward Palestinian by Israel is justified?

                  • @keardap@lemmy.selfhost.questEnglish
                    1•1 year ago

                    No, I’m saying Gazans were fucked both ways.

                    Hamas forces Israel to bombard them while using them as human shields. While also taking the little money they have, forcing them into poverty.

      • @Pipoca@lemmy.worldEnglish
        -1•1 year ago

        The last I checked, the USA didn’t come into existence from suicide bombings at busses and restaurants, and massacres of civilians at music festivals.

        According to Wikipedia,

        The IRA’s offensive campaign mainly targeted the British Army (including the UDR) and the RUC, with British soldiers being the IRA’s preferred target.[15][236] Other targets included British government officials, politicians, establishment and judicial figures, and senior British Army and police officers.[237][238] The bombing campaign principally targeted political, economic and military targets, and was described by counter-terrorism expert Andy Oppenheimer as “the biggest terrorist bombing campaign in history”.[239] Economic targets included shops, restaurants, hotels, railway stations and other public buildings.[229] The IRA was blamed for the Abercorn Restaurant bombing in March 1972, when a bomb exploded without warning killing two women and injuring many people.[n 23][240] Due to negative publicity after the Abercorn bombing, the IRA introduced a system of telephoned coded warnings to try and avoid civilian casualties while still causing the intended damage to properties and the economy.[n 24][245] Civilian deaths were counter-productive to the IRA, as they provided the British with propaganda coups and affected recruitment and funding.[246] Despite this IRA bombs continued to kill civilians, generally due to IRA mistakes and incompetence or errors in communication.

        Hamas, though, has deliberately targeted civilians for decades. Their goal hasn’t been economic damage but as many Israeli deaths as possible.

        • Annoyed_🦀 AEnglish
          3•1 year ago

          Last i checked USA also conduct ethnic cleansing of the indigenous people of America and call them discriminatory name, and when they fight back they called them terrorist.

          And they also own slave. And there’s also war about slavery.

    • bobalotEnglish
      13•1 year ago

      Many of Isreal’s founders were literally terrorists.

    • be_excellent_to_each_other
      13•1 year ago

      Terrorism is the war of the poor
      Hold up a mirror so the script get flipped
      Cause when it’s in reverse it ain’t wrong no more
      Warfare’s the terrorism of the rich

      Who’s the true guerilla
      When the bomb on your body killing innocent civilians
      But a life is a life and a killer is a killer
      You’re at a desk chillin’ push a button kill a million

      See the anguish of the parents
      When they’re carrying the body of the baby that they cherish
      When innocent people perish
      It’s a very thin line between a soldier and a terrorist

      • Brother Ali, Mourning in America
    • @bamboo@lemm.eeEnglish
      4•1 year ago

      Palestine is not separatist. Its the pre-colonial inhabitants fighting back against settler colonialism terror and asserting their right to an independent state and freedom.