• andrew_bidlaw
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    011 months ago

    Killing a thousand of people is ok, right?

    You know you can hate both Hamas and Israeli monsters?

    • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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      311 months ago

      Killing a thousand of people is ok, right?

      Not keeping up with current events, are you?

      Or are you just so desperate to cling to your pro-Israeli narrative that you will simply ignore them?

      • andrew_bidlaw
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        011 months ago

        Do you suggest I’ve hallucinated all these killings done by Hamas? They did indeed happened. There are still hostages kept by them in Gaza.

        IDF isn’t right using that as a reason to murder 10x more. Netanyahu should be roped on the closest tree branch if you’d ask me. But israelis doing these crimes don’t excuse Hamas’s attack. It is still a morbid act of terror that should be remembered and acted upon.

        • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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          211 months ago

          Do you suggest I’ve hallucinated all these killings done by Hamas?

          It’s down to below your hysterical “thousands” now, apologist… you know what that means? It means Hamas showed far more restraint during their attack than Israel has in all it’s genocidal existence.

          Netanyahu should be roped on the closest tree branch

          You can shove your “let’s-pretend-this-is-all-Netenyahu’s-fault” narrative where the sun don’t shine. Israel has been a genocidal white supremacist settler-colonialist state since the day it was created.

          But israelis doing these crimes don’t excuse Hamas’s attack.

          No. It thoroughly justifies Hamas’s attack. It would still be justified if Hamas carried out ten similar attacks. Israel is a white supremacist settler-colonialist state - the use of force against it is justified by default.

          • andrew_bidlaw
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            011 months ago

            I’d cheer you for being so stubborn. It sure needs a lot of effort to stay this way.

            Do you suggest I’ve hallucinated all these killings done by Hamas? It’s down to below your hysterical “thousands” now, apologist… you know what that means? It means Hamas showed far more restraint during their attack than Israel has in all it’s genocidal existence.

            So with that much restraint it means their act of terror is justified? That they could freely kill as long as they don’t go off IFD’s treshold? Hamas are monsters and I’m surprised you are covering their crimes.

            Netanyahu should be roped on the closest tree branch You can shove your “let’s-pretend-this-is-all-Netenyahu’s-fault” narrative where the sun don’t shine. Israel has been a genocidal white supremacist settler-colonialist state since the day it was created. But israelis doing these crimes don’t excuse Hamas’s attack.

            Palestinians from Gaza had it better than what they have now, right? Even if you could just unthink Israel as a country, better solution could’ve been to fight for their rights before october '23. And it’s still the truth. Undoing the country that’s here for 50+ years is not on the table, but bullying it into respecting palestinians is. Once that fucking crusade ends.

            No, Netanyahu isn’t the only one responsible for that, yet he’s the face of that offensive, and should be charged accordingly.

            No. It thoroughly justifies Hamas’s attack. It would still be justified if Hamas carried out ten similar attacks. Israel is a white supremacist settler-colonialist state - the use of force against it is justified by default.

            You’ve lost me there buddy. I can’t approve such attacks, even if they are said to be against an opressor. Nope. Hamas are bastards, end of the line.

            • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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              211 months ago

              So with that much restraint it means their act of terror is justified? That they could freely kill as long as they don’t go off IFD’s treshold? Hamas are monsters and I’m surprised you are covering their crimes.

              TLDR - you’d prefer Palestinians to accept their extermination quietly so that liberals like you can pretend your precious evil empire isn’t an evil empire.

              Once that fucking crusade ends.

              Oh, really? And who is going to “bully” the genocidal white supremacist settler-colonialist state like this? The largest and most successful white supremacist settler-colonialist state of them all?

              You find that fantasy quite convenient, don’t you?

              I can’t approve such attacks

              Of course you can’t - you love the oppressor and hate the oppressed… just like ole’ Malcom X said.

              • andrew_bidlaw
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                011 months ago

                Let us rewind back to times before this attack.

                What’s your solution is? Is it realistic?

                • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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                  211 months ago

                  What’s your solution is? Is it realistic?

                  Don’t need a time machine, Clyde - the solution is still the same. Dismantle the white supremacist settler-colonialist state that is the cause of the conflict.

                  Do tell… were you also around in the 80s to tell people how dismantling the Apartheid-state in South Africa was “unrealistic?”

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                    I wasn’t. But would you do with all these people living there for the last fifty years? It’s easier to imagine that in crimean case where it was only a decade at most, you can claim all property-related papers illigitimate since they were approved by an illigitimate government, and here it goes… But in Israel itso happens this administration lasted for two, three generations, and wasn’t questioned since that. How to go about that? Would you, like, revoke the citizenship of that country from those born there? Would you revoke their property rights to homes they lived in for 20+ years? And are regular people there responible for their country being an apartheid state?

                    How exactly you see it happening?

                    Guess you’d think I’m a stupid israeli apologist, okay. So to conserve my and your time, can you write your solution to that problem short, like in five bullet points? What would you do if you have ultimate power over this plot of land?