The Supreme Court on Tuesday passed up a chance to intervene in the debate over bathrooms for transgender students, rejecting an appeal from an Indiana public school district.

Federal appeals courts are divided over whether school policies enforcing restrictions on which bathrooms transgender students can use violate federal law or the Constitution.

In the case the court rejected without comment, the Chicago-based 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld an order granting transgender boys access to the boys’ bathroom. The appeal came from the Metropolitan School District of Martinsville, about 30 miles (48 kilometers) southwest of Indianapolis.

  • @Rapidcreek@lemmy.world
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    Why would anyone care where people go the bathroom? Where do you think transsexuals have been going all these years? What nonsense.

    • RedSeries
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      Hey! I appreciate your support, trans rights are human rights!

      In the future, could you please use transgender instead of transexual? The latter is a really dated term and ties a gender and societal issue to sexuality. While they may be closely associated, they’re not the same thing and any little bit helps break that association.

        • RedSeries
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          That’s all anyone can ask of you. It’s appreciated!

        • Cogency
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          You can also edit your comments, it would be preferred if you would change it so that you aren’t using what many of us consider a slur.

          • hobbicus
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            Would it not be better to leave it as is to teach others? Censoring serves no purpose here and it would prevent people from learning

            • Cogency
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              You can edit in a cross out with two tildas ~ surrounding the word and put the correct word next to it if that’s your style. But it’s still somewhat akin to using the n word for some of us.

              It’s not our word for how we describe ourselves/ what we transition for, when we transition, and it can have nothing to do with sex, mostly, we can be any sexuality.

              That old language centers everything on the fact that people see us as sexual fetishes and not people. Transition is about gender, of which sex sometimes is not even a part, asexuality exists too. Thus the word transgender

              • hobbicus
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                810 months ago

                Not disagreeing about the use of the word, just erasing a teaching moment. Fair enough regarding the editing choice though

                • Cogency
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                  And yet it’s still the most upvoted comment, keeping a slur up that hurts many trans people, but sure the teaching moment is more important than being inaccurate and insulting, but keep patting yourself on the back.

                  • hobbicus
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                    It’s the most upvoted comment because many people don’t know it’s a slur. The only way that will change is with calm teaching moments like these.

          • Cornpop
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            Alternatively you can collapse the comment and you no longer have to see it.

          • @Gladaed@feddit.de
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            While this is true, editing posts to avoid controversy is weird. They wrote what they wrote and noone can change that. Can’t unsay something, too. This also makes this conversation difficult to read for future passerbys.

      • Cogency
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        Seconded, transgender is more accurate and how we describe ourselves.

        • @Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world
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          The one exception is older trans folk who use that label because it is the one that resonated with them when they were figuring themselves out. Despite the label’s history with transmedicalism some of the elders are not down to have their identities questioned by us younger folk and their experiences are valid.

        • @Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world
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          The actual word for that is Skoliosexual…

          ( weak and offkey GI Joe theme played on a kazoo as I melt back into the internet)

        • Matt
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          OkCupid has a definition that means someone who wants to align their gender to a biological sex through medical intervention.

      • @SlothMama@lemmy.world
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        I think this is goofy. More than half my life I’ve heard the word transexual and I certainly don’t think it’s offensive.

        • @Gladaed@feddit.de
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          Because you are old. Also this is to help young people understand better. We will not convince the fossils.

          Retard used to be the nice word back in the day. Language evolves and people suck. It can be difficult to accept both.

          • @SlothMama@lemmy.world
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            I prefer transexual if I’m honest though, Transgender feels flimsier. I’m not trying to transcend the idea of what gender you see, I’m trying to transcend the boundaries of biological sex

            That is implicitly more powerful to me.

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      They have a whole fantasy conspiracy they’ve cooked up where we’re sneaking in to women’s restrooms to do human trafficking and dark web revenge porn and shit.

      • @stoly@lemmy.world
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        And that’s the typical projection of the conservatives who revealed that they would do that if they had the ability.

      • @Coasting0942@reddthat.com
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        If a trans man sneaks into the boys room, everybody in the room spontaneously turns gay.

        If a trans woman sneaks into the girls room, it’s a lesbian orgy.

        I don’t make the facts.

      • @maness300@lemmy.world
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        I think a bigger concern are regular men using this as an excuse to creep on women in bathrooms.

        At least that’s what I hear women saying. They’re afraid of men using their restrooms.

        • @CultHero@lemmy.world
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          It’s so much easier for a cis man to say he’s a trans man than for a cis man to dress as a woman and try to pass as a trans woman.

        • @dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world
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          Not saying you haven’t, but I’ve never once heard a woman afraid of men creeping on women in the bathroom. But I’m curious, aside from someone outside the bathroom doors either checking genitals or birth certificates, how exactly would enforcement of a bathroom bill work?

      • TheaoneAndOnly27
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        I’m reading this super awesome book called “before we were trans” That kind of goes over the history of gender non-conformity and transgender identities. It’s fucking amazing

    • Schwim Dandy
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      I don’t have anything to back it up but I think it’s a large group’s correlation between trans/gay == pedophilia. When I was a kid, my mom(southern baptist republican) didn’t differentiate between gay people and illegal sexual activity like molestation(this was in the 80s). If my mom had been told that a guy that viewed himself as a girl wanted to use the girl’s restroom, she would have immediately decided it was because he wanted to do something terrible to the girls.

      I think the main reason for that is because her God told her gay people were going to hell… It made it easy for her to view them as evil.

    • @stoly@lemmy.world
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      Worse: they are expending huge amounts of tax dollars over the right to act in a discriminatory way.

    • @GroundedGator@lemmy.world
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      It’s frustrating to hear comments about “trans people” or “gay people” or whatever other identifier they choose, the conversation is never about treating them like people. The way they speak would make more sense if they were talking about a stray dog than an actual feeling, thinking person.

      Trans folk are the newest “others,” though it seems that others basket is getting quite full lately.

      Anytime someone in power says anything about needing to protect you from others, they are purposely sowing discord. It is the speaker that is trying to direct your anger away from them and unto the others.

      Everyone is capable of being awesome and assholes. No identifying characteristic makes one anymore likely to be an asshole.

    • @thefartographer@lemm.ee
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      Yeah, fuck your genitals, show me how big your dookies are! Who’s gonna help me start a petition to build a national weekly poopie scoreboard? USA! USA! USA! USA!

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      Women don’t like going to the bathroom with men.

      They tolerate it on campgrounds, but not places of business that they frequent often.

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        You keep saying this, but you don’t speak for all women. I am a woman who does not care one flying fuck if the other ladies in the restroom were born with a penis, a vagina, or some variation thereof. I care much more about whether they flush & wipe the seat.

        I’m certain you’re not conflating trans with violent, right?? Or sticking up for people who do?

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            No, actually, as transfem the only time anyone ever confronted me about the bathroom I used was a man before I switched. Evidently I was freaking guys out at the urinals 😅

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        I’m a woman and I don’t care. I’ve been in the bathroom with men before and even had a nice conversation with them. Do I not exist? Who gave you the rights to speak on behalf of all women everywhere?

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          I think it’s more of a safety concern mixed with sexism.

          I’ve come across women that flat-out say they are more afraid of men on average and try to avoid them if possible.

          • queermunist she/her
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            One in four women face sexual violence. I get it.

            It sure would be nice if they’d stop to consider how women like me would feel to be forced to be surrounded by men in the men’s restroom.

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      I’m 100% a supporter of trans right to use the bathroom of their gender.

      There is a reason that bathrooms are separated by gender.

      So if you can’t understand why people who don’t believe trans people exist are upset that people are using the wrong restroom, you’re just like the people who can’t understand that trans people exist: it’s a lack of being able to see beyond your own self and understand the position of others. While I strongly disagree with them, their position is not very complicated and easy to understand.

      • @ferralcat
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        I dont think there’s any need to give the benefit of the doubt to these people anymore. You might argue they believe LGBTQ people shouldn’t exist, and I might believe you, but I tend to think their main motivation is just stirring up anger and resentment against the “other side”.

        If people were concerned about privacy or safety, the us would have single user bathrooms or at least stalls that didn’t have 1in gaps around the doors (my 90s high school didn’t have stall doors at all, and in some bathrooms didn’t even have stalls, just a toilet next to the sink in the locker room). The same people aren’t upset about those things, because they don’t actually care about any of this.

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          I dont think there’s any need to give the benefit of the doubt to these people anymore.

          It’s troubling how often I come across the opinion now that one is free to believe the worst of anyone they want.