this user is a mod of a huge .world news community btw

  • aiccount
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    This doesn’t say anything about Islam, way to wiggle in a non-related fact though.

      • @jonne@infosec.pub
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        1218 hours ago

        They always shared the land with other peoples as well. They were there before, during and after.

          • @jonne@infosec.pub
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            413 hours ago

            They’re definitely trying, yeah. I’m holding out hope they won’t succeed, but maybe that’s misplaced.

            • I’m Palestinian, and both me and most other Palestinians around me have lost their beliefs in Palestine surviving. Neither the Gaza strip nor the West Bank.

              I thank you for your hope, and I’m still boycotting whatever I can but that’s just how it is

          • Bilb!
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            I think they were referring to the native population of the area before the Israeli colonization project began, but maybe not. It’s a tad ambiguous.

      • aiccount
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        You’re going to have your mind blown when you find out that Islam came out of judism. There was a time when there were many jews and literally not a single Muslim on the planet. Christianity and Islam are groups of x-jews that murdered, raped and destroyed anything in their path. They pushed jews out of the land. I know this is all impossible to you because in your made-up world, nothing existed before the 1940s. That’s just what happens when you are so against learning, it puts you into wacky made uo worlds that make no sense. The thing you hate is the thing you defend, you just can’t be bothered to look at things from a deformed and chopped up world view. It makes sense, complexity takes effort.

        • алсааас [she/they]M
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          (person is ofc permabanned)

          meme described below

          image description:

          Caption: “Zionists be like:” picture of a lizard standing in front of a house entrance, saying: "Hello… 300 million years ago my grandfather tyrannosaurs rex used to live here. GET OUT!

        • @ceenote@lemmy.world
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          • Everything you said has nothing to do with what we were discussing, which is Israel and its backers dehumanizing the Palestinian people, and if it did it would be no justification for genociding them
          • That’s not how any religion works, we are not just all ex-zoroastrians. That all Abrahamic religions share a common origin is common knowledge.
          • Thank you for getting condescending, I can now feel justified in saying you’re either a troll or an idiot and I’m not going to waste any more time on you. Feel free to take the last word.
          • aiccount
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            -57 hours ago

            It’s so interesting how the most condescending people always see facts as condescending. It really just is the case that you can be wrong. As you get older and learn to not mindlessly repeat headlines you will see just how absurd you used to be.

        • @Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee
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          57 hours ago

          8 When they asked if there was some group out of the tribes of Israel that had not gone to the gathering at Mizpah, they found out that no one from Jabesh in Gilead had been there; 9 at the roll call of the army no one from Jabesh had responded. 10 So the assembly sent twelve thousand of their bravest men with the orders, “Go and kill everyone in Jabesh, including women and children. 11 Kill all the males, and also every woman who is not a virgin.” 12 They found four hundred young virgins among the people in Jabesh, so they brought them to the camp at Shiloh, which is in the land of Canaan. 13 Then the whole assembly sent word to the Benjaminites who were at Rimmon Rock and offered to end the war. 14 The Benjaminites came back, and the other Israelites gave them the young women from Jabesh whom they had not killed.

          - Judges 21:8-14

          Emphasis mine.

          Funny thing is, I can read old books too. And history shows that we all come from shitty people who murdered, raped, and ethnically cleansed the weak who stood in our way, be it for loot, ‘manifest destiny’, land, religious/racial purity, or just because sometimes.

          Just because you’re looking at it from your lens and filter of bias does not make that exclusively true.

        • @spujb@lemmy.cafeOP
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          gross! crazy to write this

          humans lives are actually more important than preserving random human race lore structures from millennia ago

          like it’s still okay to respect and pay homage to them, but as soon as the existing generation ticks over and people have lived their entire lives and built thriving communities for one another, it’s bad actually to use that lore to excuse killing and displacing them. nasty.

          • aiccount
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            You are preaching to the choir. All this madness goes away when people quit convincing their children that Israel is some magical land that a space daddy wants everyone to fight over to they get special toys after they die. You want this to end, then start spreading the fact that it is all BS and magic land isn’t actually a thing.

            • @spujb@lemmy.cafeOP
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              if i’m preaching to the choir then the choir is bringing up twisted and irrelevant arguments and it’s pissing me off

        • NoneOfUrBusiness
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          This is… I have no idea what to say. That said, you do know that the Middle East was a safe haven for Jews during the Middle ages right?

        • @killingspark@feddit.org
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          3016 hours ago

          Ah yes, the very differentiated worldview of “Christianity and Islam are groups of x-jews that murdered, raped and destroyed anything in their path.”

          • @prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works
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            The reality of it is that the abrahamic religions have all always had a militaristic bend to them because of their “our god is the only right god” belief.

            The Jewish people were this way before Christian’s and Muslims existed.

            Then the Jewish and Christian’s were this way before Muslims existed.

            Then the Jewish and Christian and Muslims were this way when they all existed.

            Shockingly the uniting thread between all three is HUMANITY and TRIBALISM.

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              Oh I won’t pretend there hasn’t been a lot of violence in the name of religion. I was just annoyed by the the wining about undercomplex worldviews combined with this absolute unit of a broad brush in the same comment.

    • @TheOubliette@lemmy.ml
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      1818 hours ago

      What is the dominant religion of the people killed and displaced by “Israelis”?

      And a follow-up: are you learning this for th4 fi4st time?

      • aiccount
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        I’m just willing to look at history beyond some arbitrary point to try to win an argument. You are absolutely correct, if you ignore the parts of the past that don’t agree with your pre-conceived notions, then you are right. Unfortunately for you, history doesn’t care about where you choose to make arbitrary lines.

        • @TheOubliette@lemmy.ml
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          28 hours ago

          You’ll notice you did not answer either question, O Great Context Appreciator Who Dares Not Mention Context.

          • aiccount
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            Me being willing to look at the entire context is not a bad thing. Sorry if it doesn’t line up with the headlines you were told to memorize.

            • @TheOubliette@lemmy.ml
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              lmao what context you aren’t actually saying anything other than being evasive after flinging shit.

              Can you answer my questions? Are you afraid to do so?