This scenario is quite the best outcome. Two narcissists fighting each other, hopong for a homicide/suicide ❤️
It’s already happening…
Musk was the bank that got MAGA elected in places they’d pissed off voters too much to keep winning.
If musk and trump split, the Republicans in the house and Senate need both musks money and Trump’s cult. They can’t win with either alone.
They’re already past the point of no return, their egos are too big to make up.
their egos are too big to make up
That’s where you’re wrong. They both constantly rewrite the past in their own memories. Shit one takes massive doses of disassociatves and the other can’t be bothered to digest a single thought. They can make up and act like nothing ever happened and they’re both the greatest. To hold a grudge you need to be able to hold a coherent opinion on anything and not exist in a perpetual stream of consciousness.
Reasonable thinking, expecially when we talk about the two actual main persons in the country and all the people and responsibilities around them.
Narcissists surround themselves of yes people, let’s see if those guys has cleared the area properly.
While both are wildly irrational and one is downright mentally incompetent, if they have one thing in common it’s holding on to grudges.
Oh I’m not saying that they don’t engage in extreme attacks on who they consider their enemies. But Trump rapidly flips on who his enemy and who his friend is based on the situation. He’s had that relationship with most of the GOP. Without the staff I honestly don’t think he’d be able to keep it together. Sometimes he shifts based straight up on who he’s in the room with and how they’re treating him at that exact moment. What I’m trying to say is there’s no actual calculation or payback in his mind. It’s entirely binary and subject to rapid shifts. Classic black and white thinking/cluster b splitting.
I don’t understand. This was quite possibly the most predictable thing that could have happened. Trump has a 40 year history of stiffing creditors and vendors. There has never been anything transactional about him, he just does this same thing over and over. Like there’s a reason that people have been saying, “a Trump never pays his debts” since like 2015.
Trump has probably made enough money off illegal crypto bribes that he can afford to dump musk.
Or they need to abolish free elections before the midterms, arrest noncompliant judges and just have the Trump dynasty rule by decree.
He couldn’t swing that with the backing of twitter/Facebook
Like, obviously him trying it is a big concern, but he wouldn’t be able to pull it off. I’d be surprised if he could even hold onto DC after suspendng elections.
We’d almost certainly see elected Dems immediately relocate to somewhere like Cali, and when push comes to shove, the military would be a 50/50 split at best. Like, trump can put sycophants in top military leadership positions, but that’s not enough.
That’s the entire point of a chain of command. 10 different chances for someone to grow a spine and tell them to fuck off. All the way down to the guy holding the gun.
He’s be more likely to try and use red state national guards, he’s still have to filter, and ship them across the country so they’re not acting against their own neighbors
The logistics would be a nightmare even for a competent leader. This admin can not handle something so complicated. It would be a failure, but likely a bloody one.
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I kept seeing people saying that this is all performative and that they’re both in on it, but idk, I was raised by narcissists and this is basically the exact same fight playing out on the global stage that played out weekly in my childhood living room.
Even if it was pretend to start with they’re both so sensitive and need to be right, it’ll turn into a real fight soon enough. But I agree, neither is clever enough to pretend this. For that you need professional wrestling level acting skills.
Neither one of them is able to pretend at this level. It is a real fight.
Alien vs. Predator.
Whoever loses, we win.
Nah, we are still stuck with whoever wins.
Oh I bet he’ll pay in some way to have trump challenged for being mentally unfit, I think that’s part of the constitution
One Big, Beautiful Breakup.
Sadly enough, this won’t escalate into anything because Musk didn’t exactly have a lot of friends in the GOP even when Trump’s head was crammed shoulder-deep in his ass. He was only tolerated because the GOP had no other real choice, and they didn’t want to risk him funding a primary challenger. He has lots of money but no actual political clout. Which means I doubt there’s going to be a bunch of Republicans suddenly jumping to Team Musk.
He’ll probably go the Liz Cheney route of just being ostracized by everybody. But hey, it’ll be a hell of a lot of fun watching all this shit in the meantime.
I don’t know. He’s got tons of money and politicians are like flies to shit with money.
They’ll go where the voters go. If public sentiment among the MAGA base stays with Trump, so will they. And Musk isn’t popular enough among the MAGA base (outside of being a rich useful idiot) to significantly shake Trump’s hold.
Donald Frump controls the military, Melon Husk does not.
In what world is the president going to illegally use the military to kill a billionaire?
They have the CIA for that.
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He has the KGB for that as well!
The KGB has Trump. Maybe has Musk too.
Now might be a good time for Putin to off both of them. Maximum chaos effect.
Which means I doubt there’s going to be a bunch of Republicans suddenly jumping to Team Musk.
GOP grifters avoiding the biggest pile of money to grift, and you’re confident grifters will actively avoid it? I’m not so sure. I’m betting a number of opportunistic GOP will sign up on the Musk train if it means getting a paycheck/personal superpac donation.
Of course it’s far too early to tell how this is all going to shake out, but a number of articles are reporting that House Republicans are almost entirely on Trump’s side and lashing out at Musk. While there may be a few grifters from super-safe districts that may speak out, Trump is still the face of the party and his influence goes well beyond money; some of these people may stay on Trump’s side out of fear of retaliation, especially if sentiment among the rank-and-file MAGA base sticks largely with Trump.
I feel like if he wanted to he could out right buy half the GOP congress people though. Money holds a lot of political power when the politicians are for sale.
Elmo the degenerate mass murderer can get fucked.
They are both corrupt degenerates that lack humanity and should be dealt with in a way that accounts for their lack of humanity.
Pretty sure he can’t, actually.
Too much Special K.
Wait what, really?
Why am I rooting for Elon Musk in 2025?
The enemy of my enemy is my enemies enemy. But they can still be useful.
Because he spent the last 4 months balls deep in everything relating to the government and probably has access to all the information he could ever want to take him down. I fucking hate the guy, but it’s one of those “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” kinda situation.
You shouldn’t be. When in history has rich people infighting worked out for poor people?
I guess it’s great that they’re seemingly not working together, but I find it hard to get excited.
“When the elephants fight, the grass is crushed. When the elephants make love, the grass is crushed.”
Because it’s easy to manipulate the general public with these planned out and scheduled spectacles specifically developed to provide cover for all the truly terrible stuff that’s being done just slightly behind the curtains while also giving both sides convenient cover from the other’s failures.
I was waiting for those two to fall out. Two egos this big were always going to clash sooner or later. This will be entertaining and hopefully damaging to both of them.
I wonder what all the conservative virtue signallers are going to do with their fully-loaded foundation edition cyberbeast cybertrucks now?
Mommy and daddy are fighting. 🫠
This is like hearing the school saying the two biggest bullies are going to fight in the yard after school
Everyone knows that one of them can’t hit any thing harder than a pillow and the other always chickens out against any opponent unless the person they’ll punch is held down by four guys.
The entire school knows that this shit show is a circus that will just be full of drama and no fighting … but we’re all going to head out onto the yard anyway to laugh at how stupid these idiots are going perform.
I’ll see you all on the yard after the last bell at 3pm
He also tweeted a few hours ago that he’s thinking of starting a new political party (for the 80%?). Imagine if he Ross-Perots the next election. Either that or he becomes so petty he starts primary-ing Trump supporters in the House. He has a lot of options. Though I don’t expect much is gonna come out of it. Probably throw a few more shots to Trump to repair Tesla’s image and take a break from politics.
Ah yes, the 80% and they all support white genocide. /s
This man is an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT who needs to Be Deported!
-People who Gargled Elon’s Balls yesterday!
There’s some major schadenfreude in this, but never forget all of the damage that DOGE did to the government & countless numbers of its loyal employees.
Imagine thinking his voice matters more than Thiel’s voice.
And leave JD Vance in charge?! Are you mad?! Can we just nuke the line of succession?
Lmao, two idiots fighting. This seemed kind of inevitable, they’re not compatible personality types to work with each other.
Elon definitely thinks he has more influence with trump’s crowd than he actually has, but I also think his position at twitter makes him dangerous to trump by undermining his ability to reach a lot of people who haven’t fully crawled down the maga conspiracy pipeline.
I don’t think he’s going to be able to shift much support to Vance ether. Vance and his ilk are just to weird for most trump supporters.
