• @Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world
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        413 months ago

        Trump is a result of American culture, not driving it.

        Trump is a representative of America, not an outsider.

        Trump happened again secondary to the diseases of hate and greed, not in advance of.

        • piefood
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          363 months ago

          To further expound: In a healthy political ecosystem, Trump would not be able to get anywhere near any political office. He would have been immediately voted down as the cruel joke that he is. It’s only because America is so evil and toxic that he was elected twice.

        • @trajekolus@lemmy.world
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          113 months ago

          “the diseases of hate and greed” - is found elsewhere too. Which is why Fascism is also on the rise in Europe and elsewhere.

          • Andrew Beveridge
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            43 months ago

            I agree and that rise saddens me, but in Europe, I still generally have confidence that the majority of countries’ populations respect general decency, human rights and lack of corruption enough to keep the hate and greed mostly at bay. In the US, it’s now long past hope - the corruption runs so deep, so broadly that it’s taken over, and that means the country is doomed to be somewhere I never wanna live.

            • @0x0@lemmy.zip
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              I still generally have confidence that the majority of countries’ populations respect general decency, human rights and lack of corruption enough to keep the hate and greed mostly at bay.

              And yet fascism is on the rise 'cos dumbass illiterate bigoted motherfuckers exist in the EU too.

  • HubertManne
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    223 months ago

    nowhere more than in the us. Ugh these flag wavers. If you want pride in the country the country first has to act and function in a way that elicits pride!

    • @jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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      I think a lot about something I read years ago. It said something like, “Some people love their country the way a child loves a parent. The parent is the smartest and the best and perfect. Some people love their country the way an adult loves a peer. They see the strengths, the potential, but also the weaknesses and problems that need to be addressed.”

      Conservatives are generally children. Driven largely by emotion with a very simple moral framework. Much like you will likely struggle to explain to a toddler that taking the other kid’s toys, screaming constantly, and shitting in the sandbox won’t make a lot of friends, explaining politics to a conservative is likely to be an ordeal. They don’t care. They have feelings and that is their reality.

      It’s also kind of funny how conservatives are the ones who typically say “reality doesn’t care about your feelings”. Everything is projection.

      • @CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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        83 months ago

        The qons are very much into performative bullshit that they think is patriotism. They’ll cry about how someone kneeling while a song plays and a piece of cloth is displayed at a sportsball game hurts “the troops”.

        Then they’ll proudly vote for a party that treats the men and women of the military like a used Kleenex, and embrace a figure like Taco who called them suckers and losers.

        They’ll blather about free speech, then cry about Hollywood airing shows they don’t like. They’ll talk about liberty and The Constitution, but want xtianity to be put on a pedestal.

      • HubertManne
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        23 months ago

        Man over the years that projection thing just gets more and more. Which is just crazy when they spend most of their time accusing their opponents of things we eventually find out they are actively doing at the time.

      • HubertManne
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        13 months ago

        Thats how I wear the little one on my black armband at protests. Definately in distress.

    • Lukaro
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      13 months ago

      I’ve always said I’m happy to have been born where I am and I feel privileged, not pride, for that. Unfortunately I’ve been feeling less and less privileged recently.

    • Kühlschrank
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      Probably only hardcore MAGA. Actually probably not them because they wouldn’t believe an MSM article that claimed Trump was hurting the image of the USA, even if they could read

      • @OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca
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        33 months ago

        They probably believe it but think it’s because Trump is playing hardball and making them pay their fair share and that’s why they’re mad.

    • GladiusB
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      33 months ago

      I think they love the hate. Because it’s the only emotion they get from anyone.

    • @chunes@lemmy.world
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      It is to me. That means the popularity came back after the Bush years and after Trump’s first term. It’ll come back after 2028 too because people have the memory of goldfish.

  • @CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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    13 months ago

    But Taco said we were hot, and we weren’t hot when Biden was in office, because “worst president evar” or somesuch.

    I have to trust dear leader and not any kind of real data, just like I believe him when he says we had the worst economy ever under Biden, in spite of all the evidence.