• @courageousstep@lemm.ee
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    141 day ago

    This is going to sound out of left field, and I do understand that, but I’m legitimately ready to go learn how to forage year round, build mobile tents out of natural materials, and live in a small band of 10-30 like evolution intended. Let’s pool our resources to buy land back from the idiots who are enslaving us and fuck off into the forest to live a genuinely free existence.

    Civilization was a mistake.

      • @kboy101222@sh.itjust.works
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        101 day ago

        Communes always sound great, but every single one I’ve ever heard of eventually collapses to some drama so dumb it makes PTA meetings seem sane

        • @courageousstep@lemm.ee
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          71 day ago

          Communes (and my run-away-to-the-forest idea above) will never work without the proper cultural education and social rules to prevent that kind of behavior. To relearn how to build a socially sustainable culture, we should look to cultures that have been around for thousands of years and have done it successfully. It would be a really hard transition because it requires a complete restructuring of how we view other people and how we relate to them. Which, honestly, I think we should be doing anyway, commune or not.

          • @kboy101222@sh.itjust.works
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            31 day ago

            I absolutely agree with you and I’d love to be able to pack up and move to a commune tomorrow. Problem is that some people just seem to thrive on power and drama.

            If it wasn’t so incredibly unethical, I’d love to see what’d happen if some children were raised in a commune with minimal interaction from outside adults. I wonder how their culture and language would develop and to see whether or not they form a society similar to our society or if they manage to make a sustainable commune.

            • @courageousstep@lemm.ee
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              21 day ago

              We can just look to indigenous cultures for this. They’ve been doing it for tens of thousands of years before being colonized. Like, indigenous Australian cultures sustained themselves for 60k-100k years without ruining their environment while also living in commune-type societies. Native North/South Americans did it too. We can hand off our kids to untouched/minimally touched cultures to learn how to relate to the environment and each other. There will always be human conflict. It’s how we handle that conflict that we need to learn again, and how to appropriately handle conflict needs to be retaught by those who know how to do it.

              • @kboy101222@sh.itjust.works
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                11 day ago

                Very true, though I’m more interested in how a completely new culture would develop. There’s absolutely no way I can think of that would allow the children to be completely unaffected by existing adults since they can’t exactly feed themselves, but I really wonder what would happen.

        • @Pilon23@feddit.dk
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          41 day ago

          I can imagine that happening. A substantial share of marriages end in divorce, where only 2 adult individuals need to agree on how things should be run. I can’t imagine adding additional people would make things less likely to fall apart

    • NeatoBuilds
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      41 day ago

      Until they come killing pillaging and enslaving you, then little by little the bands group together making bigger and bigger groups with the worst people leading them until we end up back where we are now