BEIJING (Reuters) -China considers Germany and the European Union as a whole as strategic partners, and it wants stronger cooperation with them in the spirit of free trade and multilateralism, the Chinese foreign minister told the German chancellor on Saturday. Foreign Minister Wang Yi told Chancellor Olaf Scholz China was willing to deepen "all-round cooperation" with Germany as part of positive bilateral efforts to maintain global peace and stability. Wang was in Germany, the EU's biggest econ
it would be incredibly funny if the US efforts on appeasing Russia and thus alienating europe end up making europe side with China
At the moment the current European ruling elites are so ideologically fanatical that they would probably still continue to antagonize both Russia and China even if the US did a complete 180 and made peace with both of them. It’s like they are all trying to outdo themselves in the EU to show who is “tougher on autocracies”. The more they harm their own countries in the process, the more they pat each other on the back and congratulate each other for how virtuous and brave they are. I mean have you heard the likes of Baerbock, Scholz or Habeck speak? These people are truly delusional and deranged beyond belief.
The EU is currently on the sixteenth package of sanctions against Russia. They keep digging the hole deeper and deeper for themselves and the only thing they know to do when something isn’t working is to double and triple down. And it will be the same with China once the ball starts rolling. They won’t be able to help themselves no matter how self-defeating it is, because they live in this self-reinforcing bubble where the more you outdo everyone else in stupid warmongering rhetoric and virtue signaling about “European values”, the higher you rise in prestige and rank in the EU system. Just look at who the last few EU “foreign ministers” have been.
Yeah modern Europeans do not know how to cooperate with other countries. Recently, the Italians back stabbed the Chinese by voting for EU tariffs, despite posturing as wanting to improve relations with them. It was quite the kerfuffle, and caused the Chinese to cancel some projects in Italy. Kind of a microcosm of how the europeans deal with everybody. Arrogant back stabbing, incompetent scheming, then getting their faces kicked in.
I have 0 confidence that this circus of fascists and ultralibs will manage a reorientation towards China. Not that the Americans, who still have huge material leverage over the EU will let any such thing happen. They’ll drag the EU into confrontation with China regardless of what Europeans want. What will the Europeans do to stop it? Nothing. They didn’t prepare after Trump’s first election to wean themselves of American dependency. They won’t do it this time around either because in the end, both continents are controlled by the same transatlantic bourgeoise.
Yeah. The change in Europe will have to come from Eastern Europe, because the Western Europeans and the Nordics are completely lost in their own arrogance and superiority complex.
Even though the Eastern Europeans have serious problems with racism and fascism too, you can still see that there is more hope for a real change of course in the likes of Hungary, Slovakia, possibly soon Romania, and maybe even Poland (who, as Atlanticist and Russophobic as they are, still appear to have more of a grip on reality than the likes of Germany, France or the UK).
And there is potential in the Balkan countries too, i think…at least the ones that aren’t just glorified NATO military bases. There have been signs of some independence of thought from Greece, Bulgaria, and even Croatia on occasion…but sadly these countries have very little sovereignty at the moment. They’ve been economically enslaved by the EU and can’t offer much real resistance. Even fiercely independent Serbia can’t do much because it is under constant political and economic pressure, despite not being in the EU or NATO, to fall in line with the “European project”.
Hard to say with the pretty sharp turn right of mainstream left and liberals (same warmongering as PiS and taking them over from the right on racism), but with how important imports from China are for the Polish economy, even PiS straight up ignored US demands of antagonising China and so far there was no moves from the Polish side against China.
Time will tell i guess, but current Polish govt seem very similar to the deluded eurocrats you described in your first post here.
That’s one aspect. The other aspect which i was thinking of is how despite the tough anti-Russia rhetoric coming out of Poland, Poland has so far consistently refused the idea of sending troops to Ukraine whenever the UK and France have floated this proposal. This tells me that they at least have enough self-preservation instinct in Poland to recognize that, unlike the British and the French, they will be on the frontline of a NATO war against Russia and they know they will not enjoy being on the receiving end of Russian missiles.
Poland also seems more willing to immediately bend the knee to the new US administration, unlike the Germans, French and British who still delude themselves into thinking that they are important or that the Europeans have any real power in their relationship with the US.