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      • @Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world
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        010 months ago

        What ever you perceive as women ‘dating outside of their league’ is often times just women being exploited by men who are either older, in a position of power, or have money.

        These women aren’t ‘dating outside their league’. They’re just being used as goods or a piece of meat. ‘Dating’ implies mutual romantic interest, not one sided infatuation reciprocated by objectification.

        It’s not easier for women to date. It’s just easier to get sexually assaulted or taken advantage of.

        • @dukeGR4OP
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          110 months ago

          and assuming there’s mutual romantic interest, and presumably there’s mutual sexual consent, how is it really sexual assault or being taken advantage of tho. Am i missing something?

          • @cendawanita
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            210 months ago

            The power differential not explicitly mentioned in her comment but that which forms the basis of her example.

            If a boss makes you work overtime, you did say yes, right? Is like tht

            • @dukeGR4OP
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              010 months ago

              well, that’s no longer power differential that’s called manipulation. i think this would be relevant if the guy (in this context) is using his superior wealth/looks etc to coerce the girl into having sex with him.

              assuming if there’s sexual consent, and both agree to have sex, would it still be sexual assault or “being taken advantage of” tho. or are we to assume that by default, a woman is to be taken advantage of unless proven otherwsie? this line of thinking is somewhat misogynistic

              • @cendawanita
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                210 months ago

                Can be if we can’t assume anything else. So now that the terms have been clarified, the thing is: what’s the league here? Only physical attractiveness? Could it also be your own observer bias? Do you find in your life, just that much more plain-looking girls with hot men? I find otherwise, but it could be you’re just more noticing the dudes because they’re aspirational goals and girls as no more than a benchmark met that’s proving to your mind why these men are aspirational goals.

                • @dukeGR4OP
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                  10 months ago

                  Yes physical attractiveness with no other attributes being considered. based on society’s general beauty standard (subjective).

                  the reason why i’m asking this is because - generally individuals date with others that are similarly attractive (my subjective opinion based on what i’ve personally experienced and seen around me). However, there exists a small pool whereby they date other individuals that do not have the same physical attractiveness. Within this pool, i’ve observed more less attractive women dating more attractive men than less attractive men dating more attractive women.

                  i’ve been talking to a few of my girl friends during catchups, surprised to find that all of them are like very stonks in their romantic life, and they told me it’s generally quite easy to date if they’re not picky. they’re average to above-average looking FYI. and it made me wonder whether this stonkness can be extended to women that are below average in terms of look. and from what i’ve observed the answer is yes. just wanted to gauge more opinion lol.